R1-2503830.docx
3GPP TSG RAN WG1 #121			R1-2503830
St Julian’s, Malta, May 19th – 23th, 2025

Agenda item:	9.4
Source: 	CMCC, Huawei, Hisilicon
Title: 	TP for A-IoT physical layer functions for TS 38.300
Document for:	Discussion and Decision
TDoc file conclusion not found
R1-2504894 Chair notes RAN1#121 (9.4 R19 Ambient IoT) v08 (eom).docx
3GPP TSG RAN WG1 #121			R1-2504894
St Julian’s, Malta, May 19th – 23th, 2025

Agenda Item:	9.4
Source:	Ad-Hoc Chair (Huawei)
Title:	Session notes for 9.4 Solutions for Ambient IoT in NR
Document for:	Discussion, Decision


Solutions for Ambient IoT (Internet of Things) in NR
Please refer to RP-250796 for detailed scope of the WI.

[121-R19-A-IoT] Email discussion on Rel-19 Ambient IoT – Jingwen (CMCC)
To be used for sharing updates on online/offline schedule, details on what is to be discussed in online/offline sessions, tdoc number of the moderator summary for online session, etc

[Post-121-Rel19-38.291-Ambient_IoT_Solutions] Email discussion on endorsement of Rel-19 draft TS38.291 – Matthew (Huawei)
Editor to prepare draft TS by XXX
Endorsement by YYY


R1-2503830	TP for A-IoT physical layer functions for TS 38.300	CMCC, Huawei, HiSilicon
R1-2504920	Summary for TP for TS 38.300 PHY function	Moderator (CMCC)

Agreement
The TP in section 3 of R1-2504920, for TS 38.300 Clause 16.x.3, is endorsed with the following revisions:
The R2D transmission is a DFT-s-OFDM-based OOK waveform
Modulation of OOK or BPSK, small frequency shift

Agreement
The draft LS to RAN2 with the Ambient IoT stage-2 TP for TS38.300 is endorsed in R1-2504923.
Final LS in R1-2504924.

Agreement
The draft LS to RAN2 with Ambient IoT higher-layer parameters is endorsed in R1-2504914 with the following action for RAN2:
ACTION: RAN1 respectfully asks RAN2 to take the above RAN1 agreements into account when designing the higher layer signalling, including defining R2D TBS information (excluding CRC length) to be included in higher layer signaling, at least for messages with variable size.

Final LS in R1-2504915.


Physical channels design – modulation aspects
Including discussions on CP handling for R2D. 

R1-2503220	Modulation aspects for Ambient IoT	Ericsson
R1-2503224	Discussion on modulation aspects for A-IoT physical channel	FUTUREWEI
R1-2503294	Physical channels design on modulation	Huawei, HiSilicon
R1-2503299	AIoT Physical channels design - modulation aspects	Nokia
R1-2503311	Discussion on Ambient IoT modulation	ZTE Corporation, Sanechips
R1-2503358	Remaining issues on Modulation Aspects of Physical Channels Design	vivo
R1-2503515	Discussion on modulation aspects of physical channels design for Ambient IoT	Spreadtrum, UNISOC
R1-2503536	Discussion on modulation aspects for Ambient IoT physical design	TCL
R1-2503566	Views on Physical channels design – modulation aspects	Samsung
R1-2503703	Discussion on modulation aspects for A-IoT physical channel	Tejas Network Limited
R1-2503725	Discussion on Physical Channel Design and Modulation Aspects for Ambient-IoT	EURECOM
R1-2503734	Views on Physical channels design – modulation aspects for AIoT	Ofinno
R1-2503793	Ambient IoT physical channel design and modulation	CATT
R1-2503831	Discussion on modulation aspects of physical channel design	CMCC
R1-2503882	Discussion on modulation aspects for Ambient IoT	Xiaomi
R1-2503924	Discussion on modulation aspects of ambient IoT	NEC
R1-2504007	A-IoT Physical Channels Design on Modulation Aspects	Panasonic
R1-2504046	Discussion on physical channels design about modulation aspects for Ambient IoT	China Telecom
R1-2504088	Modulation for R2D	Fujitsu
R1-2504098	Discussion on Physical channels design for Ambient IoT-modulation aspects	HONOR
R1-2504205	Discussion on modulation aspects of A-IoT	OPPO
R1-2504243	A-IoT PHY layer design - waveform and modulation aspects	LG Electronics
R1-2504287	Remaining issues on modulation aspects for Ambient IoT	InterDigital, Inc.
R1-2504318	On remaining modulation aspects for Ambient IoT	Apple
R1-2504394	Physical channels design – modulation aspects	Qualcomm Incorporated
R1-2504433	Discussion on modulation aspects	Sharp
R1-2504482	Discussion on Modulation Aspects for Ambient IoT	Indian Institute of Tech (M)
R1-2504501	Discussion on modulation aspects of physical channel design for Ambient IoT	NTT DOCOMO, INC.
R1-2504585	Discussion on physical channels design for A-IoT	China Unicom
R1-2504617	Discussion on modulation aspects of physical channels design for Ambient IoT	WILUS Inc.
R1-2504633	Discussion on modulation related aspects of AIoT	IIT Kanpur

R1-2504710	FL summary #1 for Ambient IoT: “9.4.1 Physical channels design – modulation aspects”	Moderator (Huawei)

Agreement
For R2D, the minimum Btx,R2D # of PRBs associated to each agreed M value (i.e. M = 2, 6, 12 and 24) is specified as per TR38.769.


Agreement
For M=24 on CP handling, update the below agreement as follows:
Agreement
For further down-selection among CP handing which retains subcarrier orthogonality, at least for PRDCH, at least Method Type 1 is supported
For supported M values <= 12
RAN1 will not further pursue additional CP handling design
For supported M values > 12
RAN1 will further down-select one from the followings
Option 1: Candidate 3 of M2-1-1 (as per agreements from RAN1#120)
Insert padding chips only at the end OOK chips of OFDM symbol
The last 2 out of M OOK chips at the end of an OFDM symbol are always ‘ON’
For the OFDM symbol contains CAP
The last 2 out of M OOK chips at the end of the OFDM symbol are always ‘ON’
Option 3: RAN1 will not further pursue additional CP handling design


Agreement
For R2D chip duration, for CP handling that retains sub-carrier orthogonality, the length of a R2D chip duration (denoted as ‘C’) in one OFDM symbol is defined as:
C = 1/(SCS*M)
Note: the total length of M OOK chips is equal to 1/SCS

Working assumption
When padding is used in R2D, padding is present right after postamble (if postamble is supported).

Agreement
The working assumption is confirmed as follows:
When padding is used in R2D, padding is present right after postamble (if postamble is supported).

Agreement
When the generated number of chips for the R2D transmission does not fully occupy the last OFDM symbol, padding is used as follows:
Alt 1a: The content of padding is up to reader implementation and transparent to device.
The timeline determination of any timing relationship refers to the end of padding.
Note: it implies the device should be aware of the duration of padding or the last OFDM symbol boundary by implementation.
Note: the padding time could be used for extra time needed for calculating FEC/CRC for D2R (if applied)
The end chip(s) of the padding content shall follow the CP handling solution determined in RAN1, and may be affected by other agreements.
The chip(s) of the padding content shall avoid to result in SIP pattern.

Conclusion
The other steps (in addition to agreed Step 1 and Step 5) for R2D waveform generation will not be described in the RAN1 TS.

Physical channels design – line coding, FEC, CRC, repetition aspects
Including discussions on small frequency shift 

R1-2503221	Coding aspects for Ambient IoT	Ericsson
R1-2503225	Coding aspects for A-IoT physical channel	FUTUREWEI
R1-2503295	Physical channel design on channel coding	Huawei, HiSilicon
R1-2503300	AIoT Physical channels design - line coding, FEC, CRC, repetition aspects	Nokia
R1-2503312	Discussion on Ambient IoTcoding and SFS	ZTE Corporation, Sanechips
R1-2503359	Remaining issues on line coding, FEC, CRC and repetition for A-IoT	vivo
R1-2503516	Discussion on line coding, FEC, CRC, repetition aspects for Ambient IoT	Spreadtrum, UNISOC
R1-2503537	Discussion on other aspects for Ambient IoT physical design	TCL
R1-2503567	Views on Physical channels design – line coding, FEC, CRC, repetition aspects	Samsung
R1-2503618	Discussion on Physical Channel Designs for A-IoT	Panasonic
R1-2503794	Ambient IoT channel coding and small frequency shift	CATT
R1-2503832	Discussion on coding aspects of physical channel design	CMCC
R1-2503883	Discussion on line coding, FEC, CRC and repetition aspects for Ambient IoT	Xiaomi
R1-2503925	Physical layer design – line coding, FEC, CRC, repetition aspects	NEC
R1-2504047	Discussion on physical channels design about line coding, FEC, CRC, repetition aspects for Ambient IoT	China Telecom
R1-2504089	Discussion on coding aspects	Fujitsu
R1-2504099	Discussion on Physical channels design for Ambient IoT-other aspects	HONOR
R1-2504206	Discussion on physical channels design for A-IoT	OPPO
R1-2504244	A-IoT PHY layer design - line coding, FEC, CRC and repetition aspects	LG Electronics
R1-2504261	A-IoT - PHY line coding, FEC, CRC, repetition aspects	MediaTek Inc.
R1-2504288	Remaining issues on coding aspects for Ambient IoT	InterDigital, Inc.
R1-2504319	On remaining coding aspects for Ambient IoT	Apple
R1-2504395	Physical channels design – line coding, FEC, CRC, repetition aspects	Qualcomm Incorporated
R1-2504434	Discussion on coding aspects	Sharp
R1-2504474	Discussion on A-IoT Physical channels design	ASUSTeK
R1-2504502	Discussion on coding and CRC aspects of physical channel design for Ambient IoT	NTT DOCOMO, INC.
R1-2504634	Discussion on other aspects of Phy design for AIoT	IIT Kanpur

R1-2504749	Summary #1 for coding aspects of physical channel design	Moderator (CMCC)

Agreement
For D2R transmission,
The minimum Tb is 1.39μs.
Support at least the following values of Tb, Tchip, and R from the table agreed in RAN1#120bis.
Note: This does not imply the device to pre-store the table.


Agreement
For bit collection after FEC, the output bits for each input bit are arranged sequentially in accordance with the input bits, e.g., for input bits , the output of the FEC is , with the code rate of 1/3.

Agreement
For attaching the CRC, the parity bits are appended to the end of the input bits, according to the order in TS38.212.

R1-2504750	Summary #2 for coding aspects of physical channel design	Moderator (CMCC)

Agreement
For the number of block-level repetitions, {1, 2} are supported.
Note: When the number of block-level repetition is 1, it indicates no repetition.

Agreement
For indication of frequency domain resources for Msg 1 transmissions when Y≥1, the reader indicates
a single bit duration Tb which is same for all frequency domain resources
a set of R values, where the possible R values correspond to the agreed table of values of Tb, Tchip, and R
note: the set of R values could be signalled using a bitmap
The detailed signalling design is left to RAN2.

R1-2504751	Summary #3 for coding aspects of physical channel design	Moderator (CMCC)

Agreement
For frequency domain resource for Msg 3 transmission determined based on explicit indication in the PRDCH for Msg 2 transmission for one or multiple devices, the reader indicates:
a single bit duration, which is same for all frequency domain resources,
a set of R values, where the possible R values correspond to the agreed table of values of Tb, Tchip, and R
note: the set of R values could be signalled using a bitmap
The mapping relationship between device and its Msg 3 frequency domain resource is left to RAN2.
Note: Device could determine its R value for Msg 3 transmission based on its order of random ID in Msg 2
The detailed signalling design is left to RAN2.


Timing acquisition and synchronization
Including discussions on the necessity/functionalities of preamble/midamble/postamble for R2D and D2R, respectively. 

R1-2503222	Timing acquisition and synchronization for Ambient IoT	Ericsson
R1-2503226	Discussion on timing acquisition and synchronization aspects for A-IoT	FUTUREWEI
R1-2503296	Physical signals design	Huawei, HiSilicon
R1-2503301	AIoT Timing acquisition and synchronization	Nokia
R1-2503313	Discussion on Ambient IoT signals	ZTE Corporation, Sanechips
R1-2503360	Remaining issues on Timing acquisition and synchronization for AIoT	vivo
R1-2503420	Discussion on timing acquisition and synchronization	NEC
R1-2503517	Discussion on  timing acquisition and synchronization for Ambient IoT	Spreadtrum, UNISOC
R1-2503538	Discussion on timing acquisition and synchronization functionalities for Ambient IoT	TCL
R1-2503568	Views on timing acquisition and synchronization	Samsung
R1-2503610	Discussion on timing acquisition and synchronization	InterDigital, Inc.
R1-2503660	Discussion on timing acquisition and synchronization for Ambient IoT	Lenovo
R1-2503704	Discussion on timing acquisition and synchronization of A-IoT	Tejas Network Limited
R1-2503715	Discussion on timing acquisition and synchronisation for Ambient IoT	Lekha Wireless Solutions
R1-2503735	Views on Timing acquisition and synchronization	Ofinno
R1-2503795	Ambient IoT Timing and synchronization	CATT
R1-2503833	Discussion on timing acquisition and synchronization	CMCC
R1-2503884	Discussion on timing acquisition and synchronization for Ambient IoT	Xiaomi
R1-2504008	A-IoT Timing acquisition and synchronization	Panasonic
R1-2504048	Discussion on timing acquisition and synchronization for Ambient IoT	China Telecom
R1-2504090	Discussion on timing acquisition and synchronization	Fujitsu
R1-2504111	Discussion on timing acquisition and synchronization for Ambient-IOT	Fraunhofer IIS, Fraunhofer HHI
R1-2504139	Discussion on timing acquisition and synchronization	ETRI
R1-2504207	Discussion on timing acquisition and synchronization for A-IoT	OPPO
R1-2504245	Timing acquisition and synchronization for A-IoT	LG Electronics
R1-2504320	On remaining timing acquisition & synchronization aspects for Ambient IoT	Apple
R1-2504396	Timing acquisition and synchronization	Qualcomm Incorporated
R1-2504435	Discussion on timing acquisition and synchronization	Sharp
R1-2504483	Discussion on Timing acquisition and synchronization for Ambient IoT	Indian Institute of Tech (M)
R1-2504503	Discussion on timing acquisition and synchronization for Ambient IoT	NTT DOCOMO, INC.
R1-2504600	Discussion on timing acquisition and synchronization aspects for Ambient IoT	CEWiT
R1-2504635	Discussion on timing and synchronization aspects for AIoT	IIT Kanpur

R1-2504322	FL Summary#1 on timing acquisition and synchronization for Ambient IoT	Moderator (Apple)

Agreement
Confirm the working assumption in the following agreement from RAN1#120bis:
Agreement
For D2R preamble/midamble, base sequence is generated from m-sequence, where the length of the sequence is 
Value(s) of n
Long preamble/midamble is generated based on n = 5
Working assumption: Short preamble/midamble is generated based on n=3 
Only 1-part preamble/midamble are supported for D2R
Preamble immediately precedes the PDRCH without any gap
Both long and short preamble and midamble are supported based on the working assumption on n
when midamble is present at least the following cases are supported and reader explicitly indicates one of the following cases for PDRCH:
Short preamble and short midamble 
Long preamble and long midamble 
Note: the case of short preamble and long midamble will not be supported
When midamble is not present the reader explicitly indicates short or long preamble for PDRCH


Agreement
M = {2,6,12,24} are adopted for CAP and same M value is used for CAP and PRDCH in an R2D transmission.

R1-2504323	FL Summary#2 on timing acquisition and synchronization for Ambient IoT	Moderator (Apple)

Agreement
For D2R ambles,
For n = 3, adopt m-sequence with following:
Polynomial: x³ + x² + 1
Initial State: Down-select between 010 or 100
Resulting Sequence: Down-select between 0 1 0 0 1 1 1 (for 010 initial state) or 1 0 0 1 1 1 0 (for 100 initial state)
For n = 5, adopt m-sequence with following:
Polynomial: x⁵ + x³ + 1
Initial State: 01001
Resulting Sequence: 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 1 1


R1-2504324	FL Summary#3 on timing acquisition and synchronization for Ambient IoT	Moderator (Apple)

Agreement
SIP of R-TAS is adopted with 2 OFDM symbol duration, i.e. ON-OFF-ON-OFF with a ratio of 2:2:1:3
Note: Detection method of SIP presence at the device is not specified
Agreement from RAN1#120bis is updated as follows:
Agreement
For R-TAS, SIP duration of 1 2 OFDM symbols is adopted with CAP pattern ON-OFF-ON-OFF for all values of M corresponding to PRDCH 
Note: device cannot assume the presence/absence of RF transmission prior to the SIP.

OPPO expressed the concern that the agreement above has higher overhead and latency.


Agreement
For D2R, for indicating the interval between consecutive midambles, and between the preamble and the first midamble, via R2D control information, following interval values are adopted:
For bit duration of 266.67μs
I = 48 bits, 96 bits, 168 bits, 240 bits
For other supported bit durations of 266.67μs/Y
I = Y * {48, 96, 168, 240} bits
Values of Y: 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 192
For signaling via R2D control information, following is adopted:
1-bit length codepoint is used to indicate whether long or short preamble/midamble is applied at the device, where “0” indicates short preamble/midamble and “1” indicates long preamble/midamble
Midamble interval is indicated by a 2-bit length codepoint 
Lowest to highest codepoint value indicates lowest to highest interval value 
1-bit length codepoint is used to indicate whether the midamble is present at the end or not, where “0” indicates no midamble present at the end and “1” indicates midamble present at the end
Note: if the indicated interval is longer than the number of bits after FEC (if FEC is applied) and repetition (if repetition is applied), and 1-bit length codepoint does not indicate midamble present at the end, then there is no midamble.

R1-2504863	FL Summary#4 on timing acquisition and synchronization for Ambient IoT	Moderator (Apple)

Agreement
For m-sequence with n =3 for D2R ambles, adopt initial State of 100 and resulting sequence of 1 0 0 1 1 1 0

Agreement
R2D postamble is specified with 4 ON chips corresponding to M value of the PRDCH 
R2D postamble is added immediately after the PRDCH
R2D postamble has always 4 ON chips
Note: For M=24, 2 ON chips at the end of OFDM symbol for CP handling are in addition to R2D postamble, and are not part of the R2D postamble
R2D padding duration is determined after R2D postamble insertion
TBS information for R2D is supported via higher layer R2D control signalling.
Send LS to RAN2 asking to include R2D TBS information (excluding CRC length) in higher layer signaling, at least for messages with variable size.
Note: Exact method for determining the end of PRDCH at the device is not specified.

Other aspects incl. multiplexing/multiple access, scheduling information, and timing relationships
Including discussions on L1 control information and any other L1 procedural aspects. 

R1-2503223	Other aspects for Ambient IoT	Ericsson
R1-2503227	Multiple access, scheduling and timing aspects for A-IoT	FUTUREWEI
R1-2503297	Multiplexing, scheduling, and other physical-layer procedures	Huawei, HiSilicon
R1-2503302	AIoT Other aspects incl. multiplexing/multiple access, scheduling information, and timing relationships	Nokia
R1-2503314	Discussion on Ambient IoT multiple access and timing	ZTE Corporation, Sanechips
R1-2503361	Remaining issues on other aspects for Rel-19 Ambient IoT	vivo
R1-2503518	Discussion on other aspects for Ambient IoT	Spreadtrum, UNISOC
R1-2503569	Views on aspects including multiplexing/multiple access, scheduling information, and timing relationships	Samsung
R1-2503611	Discussion on multiplexing/multiple access, scheduling information, and timing relationships	InterDigital, Inc.
R1-2503619	Discussion on other aspects of A-IoT	Panasonic
R1-2503661	Discussion on multiple access, scheduling and timing aspects of Ambient IoT	Lenovo
R1-2503705	Discussion on multiple access, scheduling and timing aspects for A-IoT	Tejas Network Limited
R1-2503736	Views on other aspects for AIoT	Ofinno
R1-2503796	Ambient IoT frame structure, system control and resource allocation	CATT
R1-2503834	Discussion on access, scheduling and timing relationships	CMCC
R1-2503885	Discussion on other aspects for Ambient IoT	Xiaomi
R1-2503926	Discussion on control and other aspects of ambient IoT	NEC
R1-2504049	Discussion on other aspects for Ambient IoT	China Telecom
R1-2504064	Multiple access and timing relationships for Ambient IoT	Sony
R1-2504091	Discussion on other aspects of Ambient IoT	Fujitsu
R1-2504100	Discussion on L1 control information and L1 procedural aspects	HONOR
R1-2504140	Discussion on other aspects for Ambient IoT	ETRI
R1-2504208	Discussions on other aspects of A-IoT communication	OPPO
R1-2504246	Other aspects for A-IoT	LG Electronics
R1-2504299	Discussion on multiplexing, multiple access, scheduling information, and timing relationships	Google
R1-2504321	On remaining multiple access, scheduling and control aspects for Ambient IoT	Apple
R1-2504397	Discussion on other aspects for Rel-19 Ambient IoT	Qualcomm Incorporated
R1-2504436	Discussion on other aspects	Sharp
R1-2504475	Discussion on control information and procedural aspects	ASUSTeK
R1-2504504	Discussion on other aspects for Ambient IoT	NTT DOCOMO, INC.
R1-2504542	Discussion on other aspects of Ambient IoT	KT Corp.
R1-2504589	Discussion on multiple access, scheduling information and timing relationships for Ambient IoT	TCL
R1-2504601	Discussion on multiple access, scheduling and timing aspects for Ambient IoT	CEWiT
R1-2504618	Discussion on multiplexing/multiple access and timing relationships for Ambient IoT	WILUS Inc.

R1-2503362	FL summary #1 on other aspects for Rel-19 Ambient IoT	Moderator (vivo)

Agreement
For Toffset1, where Toffset1 is the time interval from the end of the R2D transmission triggering random access to the starting time of the first Msg1 time domain resource for X=1 or X=2,
Toffset1 is not smaller than 30 us for CBRA.

R1-2503363	FL summary #2 on other aspects for Rel-19 Ambient IoT	Moderator (vivo)

Agreement
For Toffset1, where Toffset1 is the time interval from the end of the R2D transmission triggering random access to the starting time of the first Msg1 time domain resource for X=1 or X=2, from the device perspective:
Toffset1 is from a set of predefined values. 
FFS: the predefined values 
E.g. values within the range [2666.8, 1333.4, 666.6, 333.4, 222.2, 166.6, 133.34, 111.2, 83.4, 55.6, 44.44, 41.6, 30] us
FFS: which values of Toffset1 correspond to which values of the following factors (to be selected with future agreement):
R2D chip length, D2R chip length, padding length, whether FEC is applied

Agreement
, where
 is the duration of the 1st Msg1 time domain resource
=0.25 and =1.25

Agreement
Define Toffset3, which is the time interval from the end of a R2D transmission for Msg2 to the starting time of the corresponding Msg3 time domain resource, from the device perspective.

Agreement
Define Toffset4, which is the time interval from the end of a R2D transmission to the starting time of the corresponding D2R time domain resource except for Msg1 and Msg3 transmission, from the device perspective. 

Agreement
Confirm the working assumption with following updates   
Working assumption
For indicating the payload size (i.e. TBS-like) for PDRCH transmission with variable size except for Msg1 and Msg3 transmission in CBRA and 1st D2R Message in CFRA:
7 bits for byte-level D2R payload size indication
Regarding the TBS of Msg3 in CBRA, and 1st D2R Message in CFRA
From RAN1 perspective, it is up to other WGs to decide the actual payload value set and how device knows the actual payload size

Agreement
It is up to RAN4 to define the value(s) for TD2R_min.
Note: RAN1 expects that the value(s) for TD2R_min will be defined in RAN4 specifications

Agreement
For CBRA, for FDMA of multiple Msg1 transmissions in response to a R2D transmission triggering random access, the bit duration Tb, the sequence length for D2R preamble, the block repetition number, the channel coding information, the sequence length and the interval bits for D2R midamble insertion, if applicable, provided in the paging message are the same for all the FDMed Msg1 transmissions.

Agreement
For CBRA, for TDMA of X=2 Msg1 transmissions in response to a R2D transmission triggering random access, the bit duration Tb, the sequence length for D2R preamble, the block repetition number, the channel coding information, the sequence length and the interval bits for D2R midamble insertion, if applicable, provided in the paging message are the same for all the TDMed Msg1 transmissions. 

R1-2503364	FL summary #3 on other aspects for Rel-19 Ambient IoT	Moderator (vivo)

Working assumption
For Toffset1, for CBRA, regardless of the use of FEC, 
The reference D2R chip length is the largest D2R chip length among the scheduled FDMed Msg1 for Y>1 or the D2R chip length for Y=1.
If reference D2R chip length is 133.33 or 66,67us, Toffset1 = 20* 66.67=1333.4us
If reference D2R chip length is 33.33, 16.67, or 8.33us, Toffset1 = 20* 33.33=666.6us
If reference D2R chip length is 4.17us, Toffset1 = 4* 33.33=133.32us
If reference D2R chip length is 2.08, 1.04, or 0.69us,
If the R2D chip length is 33.33us, Toffset1 = 4* 33.33=133.32us
If the R2D chip length is 11.11, 5.56 or 2.78us, Toffset1 = 3*11.11=33.33us
The R2D chip length refers to the corresponding R2D transmission triggering the D2R

Agreement
For Toffset3, for CBRA
The reference D2R chip length is the largest D2R chip length among the scheduled FDMed Msg3 for Y>1 or the D2R chip length for Y=1.
when FEC is not used:
If reference D2R chip length is 133.33 or 66,67us, Toffset3 = 20* 66.67=1333.4us
If reference D2R chip length is 33.33, 16.67, or 8.33us, Toffset3 = 20* 33.33=666.6us
If reference D2R chip length is 4.17us, Toffset3 = 4* 33.33=133.32us
If reference D2R chip length is 2.08, 1.04, or 0.69us,
If the R2D chip length is 33.33us, Toffset3 = 4* 33.33=133.32us
If the R2D chip length is 11.11, 5.56 or 2.78us, Toffset3 = 3*11.11=33.33us
The R2D chip length refers to the corresponding R2D transmission triggering the D2R
when FEC is used: down-select from the options below:
Opt1: same as when FEC is not used
Opt2: same as when FEC is not used + TFEC, where TFEC = [66.67]us
Opt3:
If reference D2R chip length is 133.33 or 66,67us, Toffset3 = 20* 66.67=1333.4us
If reference D2R chip length is 33.33, 16.67, or 8.33us, Toffset3 = 20* 33.33=666.6us
If reference D2R chip length is 4.17us, Toffset3 = 133.32us [+ 66.67us]
If reference D2R chip length is 2.08, 1.04, or 0.69us,
If the R2D chip length is 33.33us, Toffset3 = 133.32us [+ 66.67us]
If the R2D chip length is 11.11, 5.56 or 2.78us, Toffset3 = 33.33+[66.67]us
The R2D chip length refers to the corresponding R2D transmission triggering the D2R

Agreement
For FDMA of Msg3 transmissions in response to a PRDCH for Msg2:  
The bit duration Tb, the sequence length for D2R preamble, the block repetition number, the channel coding information, the sequence length and the interval bits for D2R midamble insertion, if applicable, provided in the PRDCH for Msg2 are the same for all the FDMed Msg3 transmissions 


R1-2504821	FL summary #4 on other aspects for Rel-19 Ambient IoT	Moderator (vivo)

Working assumption
For Toffset3, for CBRA, when FEC is used
If reference D2R chip length is 133.33 or 66,67us, Toffset3 = 20* 66.67=1333.4us
If reference D2R chip length is 33.33, 16.67, or 8.33us, Toffset3 = 20* 33.33=666.6us
If reference D2R chip length is 4.17us, Toffset3 = 133.32us + X
If reference D2R chip length is 2.08, 1.04, or 0.69us,
If the R2D chip length is 33.33us, Toffset3 = 133.32us+ X
If the R2D chip length is 11.11, 5.56 or 2.78us, Toffset3 = 33.33+X
The R2D chip length refers to the corresponding R2D transmission triggering the D2R
Where X= 133.3us
Note: X=133.3us assumes the maximum size of Msg3 is 128 bits.

Agreement
For Toffset4, which is the time interval from the end of a R2D transmission to the starting time of the corresponding D2R time domain resource except for Msg1 and Msg3 transmission.
When FEC is not used:
If the D2R chip length is 133.33 or 66,67us, Toffset4 = 20* 66.67=1333.4us
If the D2R chip length is 33.33, 16.67, or 8.33us, Toffset4 = 20* 33.33=666.6us
If the D2R chip length is 4.17us, Toffset4 = 4* 33.33=133.32us
If the D2R chip length is 2.08, 1.04, or 0.69us,
If the R2D chip length is 33.33us, Toffset4 = 4* 33.33=133.32us
If the R2D chip length is 11.11, 5.56 or 2.78us, Toffset4 = 3*11.11=33.33us
The R2D chip length refers to the corresponding R2D transmission triggering the D2R

Agreement
For Toffset4, which is the time interval from the end of a R2D transmission to the starting time of the corresponding D2R time domain resource except for Msg1 and Msg3 transmission.
When FEC is used
Same as when FEC is not used + TFEC, where
TFEC = 2X for TBS <=32bytes
TFEC = 4X for 32bytes
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3GPP TSG RAN WG1 #121			R1-2504920
St Julian’s, Malta, May 19th – 23th, 2025


Source: 	Moderator (CMCC)
Title:	Summary for TP for TS 38.300 PHY function
Agenda:	9.4
Document for:	Discussion & Decision

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